Duplicati versions install mess up!

I have used Duplicati for a long time. I have always found it quite confusing, but now it just got worse:

My Duplicati is “Canary”. I just discovered that this is the unstable development version, and not the stable version, so I am a bit shocked.

When logged in - http://localhost:8200/ngax/index.html#/about - in a browser, it says:

" You are currently running Duplicati - 2.0.7.103_canary_2024-04-19

Update Duplicati v2.0.9.109 is available, download now

Check for updates now "

But I can’t seem to update it. Much less to the stable version.

I tried downloading the newest stable version from Download Duplicati application and installing it (on Ubuntu 20.04). But when trying to open it, it said “First run setup”, as if I had never used Duplicati before.

So this is a total mess…!

This is covered in the forum, release notices, docs, and Duplicati. Stable is actually quite new, but before the first one recently, the Beta version was the best-tested. Canary is always an initial view.

I keep asking for the download page to say something about the important changes, including new password requirement. If you never had one before, you need one now. Here’s the release notice:

v2.1.0.5_stable_2025-03-04

Or if you prefer the forum announcement (which accepts comments – especially handy for Canary users to see what’s right or wrong with a given one – as noted, these are initial release for testing):

The mandatory password is detailed (but could always use more details) in the documentation:

Duplicati Access Password

This is also linked from the login screen in case someone gets surprised by the password need.

For brand new users, it’s first run. For existing users, it comes up to make it easy to set password.
If you missed that opportunity, you can get in password-free from the TrayIcon, then use Settings screen to put on a password in case you ever like to directly browse in with a URL or a bookmark.

Not really IMO, but notification of users could be better, and the original problem IMO is not from Duplicati itself, but from an error in how the update is being directed. Here are some references:

@kenkendk any chance the manifest files could get fixed soon to avoid confusing more users?

EDIT 1:

I’ll concede that seeing a popup titled “First run setup” could be worrisome to a current user, but content should make it clear what it’s trying to do. It repeats some of what I said above. The text:

Duplicati needs to be secured with a passphrase and a random passphrase has been generated for you.\nIf you open Duplicati from the tray icon, you do not need a passphrase, but if you plan to open it from another location you need to set a passphrase you know.\nDo you want to set a passphrase now?

This popup is not shown if a password already exists, but I’d guess most previous users lack one.

I’d agree with this topic’s title saying “Duplicati versions install mess up”, and hope it will get fixed.

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That is a mess up, due to a check in the code that was not triggered during testing.
The update is in a transition state that was designed to be smoother, but ultimately got a bit messy if you are not already on 2.0.8.1.

I can see that this is a bit confusing, but as @ts678 mentions, this only happens because you do not have a password set, and this is now required. The dialog was designed for new installations, but pops up on upgrades, so perhaps the wording should have been a bit clearer.

Hope you get it working despite the trouble.

Sadly no :cry:

The manifest serves both the users of 2.0.8.1 (for whom it is working) and older installs where it does not work. At this point I only have the option of breaking 2.0.8.1 upgrade notices or the current state. At least in the current state you are alerted that there is an upgrade.

Thank you very much for the replies! I was a bit overwhelmed by all that information. :slight_smile:

Now I opened up http://localhost:8200/ngax/index.html#/ again, and as always, I am asked for my password, that I created years ago.

Then Duplicati shows that my backup still exists and ran earlier today, and it says:

“You are currently running Duplicati - 2.1.0.5_stable_2025-03-04”

So I guess everything is fine?

The Settings page does not show any kind of “you need to set a password” message.

Sounds like it :sun:

It only shows if you did not have a password set before the update, so that is as intended.