Backup Runtime after 2.0.7.1 update

The code snippet shown above looks like it runs at database opening. The job database is normally not open, but is opened as needed. Looking at a job log is just a very safe way of trying to get the message from the database open, as seen in About → Show log → Live → Verbose. Or do some other operation.

Here’s what I tried:

  1. Navigate to the Job Log
  2. Expand a Job Log
  3. Navigate to About > Show Log > Live
  4. Change the Level to “Verbose”
  5. Look for a "Setting custom SQLite option '{0}'." entry. (nope, nothing except the message from 10:21am posted previously)

Then, I tried:

  1. Leaving the Live Log window open, and opening a new browser tab for Duplicati
  2. In the new tab, navigate to the Job Log
  3. Expand a Job Log
  4. Return to other tab with the Live Log
  5. Look for additional log messages (no, there are no new entries)

Your environment variable might not be set up as well as you think, but ps will show what Duplicati got. Meanwhile, I guess I can play with this, but it’ll probably be on Windows. Still, I can test logging output.

That may be, but it’s set up the same way as the dozen+ other Environment Variables I have set up across 13 containers, all of which work as expected. If there’s a trick to this one, I’d love to know it!

I think live log actually did somehow manage to pick up the server database open.
I then waited until 2:25 then played with job logs. Didn’t even open one, just listed.

Do they have to make their way through systemd which might chop prior ones off?

Directions and methods were previously posted. Can you say how you’re doing it?

Some systemd background, which may or may not fit what your container is using:

$ cat /lib/systemd/system/duplicati.service
[Unit]
Description=Duplicati web-server
After=network.target

[Service]
Nice=19
IOSchedulingClass=idle
EnvironmentFile=-/etc/default/duplicati
ExecStart=/usr/bin/duplicati-server $DAEMON_OPTS
Restart=always

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html

EnvironmentFile=

    Similar to Environment=, but reads the environment variables from a text file.

I don’t personally use Docker, so am not terribly expert. There are also several Duplicati image makers.

I have absolutely no idea.

This is what Environment Variable definition looks like in Unraid:

I’ve only ever interacted with containers using Unraid, so this is the only method I know of to define an Environment Variable to be used by the application.

Docker Management in the Unraid manual isn’t of much help.

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Unraid subreddit being private (joining protest?) hurts as well. Maybe a Docker person will stop by.
Meanwhile there’s probably a ps command (of some sort) that a docker exec could probably use.

I asked in the linuxserver discord (they publish the container that I use), and this is the commentary so far:

me: I'm trying to implement the CUSTOMSQLITEOPTIONS_DUPLICATI 
environment variable, and it does not appear to be working.  
Is there some reason why the linuxserver.io container might 
not expose that variable to the application?
them: Depends if it can actually read system variables
me: I'm not really sure what that means... are you saying 
"Depending on how the duplicati application is written, it may 
or may not be able to use the Environment Variables defined 
in the container."?
them: Yea
them: Some containers we have automatically pick them up
them: Others need to be manually set

Edit: They asked this: Check their documentation to see if what you're trying to do can be set as a startup option

Can this be set as a startup option rather than an Environment Variable?

I’m not a systemd expert either (on top of not being a Docker expert), but after some more searching, possibly Docker’s (and so perhaps Unraid’s) idea of passing in an environment variable means giving variable to initial process i.e. PID 1, which might be systemd and can either discard it or pass it along.

From the previously linked systemd page:

PassEnvironment=

    Pass environment variables set for the system service manager to executed processes. Takes a space-separated list of variable names.

Environment Variables in Spawned Processes

Processes started by the system service manager generally do not inherit environment variables set for the service manager itself (but this may be altered via PassEnvironment=)

Guessing that they’re talking about the second line, and there is no equivalent Duplicati option.
How about using the first line (as suggested)? Unless they changed the unit file, it should work.

The container file structure does not have /etc/default/duplicati

I can create it, but is duplicati a file or a directory? What’s the format for defining variables in the file?

No.
Here is how it should appear in the log (slightly edited)

export CUSTOMSQLITEOPTIONS_DUPLICATI=cache_size=-200000
(py311) gp@mono:/shared/duplicati$ mono Duplicati/CommandLine/bin/Debug/Duplicati.CommandLine.exe list "ssh://ftp.site.com//fichiers/titi?auth-username=xxx&auth-password=xxx"  --no-encryption=true --console-log-level=verbose
The operation List has started
No local database, accessing remote store
Setting custom SQLite option 'cache_size=-200000'.
Backend event: List - Started:  ()
(...)

I have barely used Docker but the only use I have found for it I needed to access the innards of the container and it was quite possible by doing

docker exec -it 1ae0acbdf51d bash

(the hash was obtained through docker ps)

Then in bash printenv should be available.

The use of bash was possible because the container was based on Debian - AFAIR the default Duplicati docker is based on Debian.

This said in my tests adding cache memory had barely an impact on this particular query execution time anyway. You would use your time more productively producing a bug report IMO.

Looks like it IS defined, but it’s not reflected in the logs, so I don’t know.

I’ll export a bug report and send it to you.

EDIT: after I started the Bug Report job, I got an entry in the live log:

Jun 16, 2023 1:26 PM: Setting custom SQLite option 'cache_size=-200000'. 

It’s a file that you edit. Here’s its source, with one environment variable already set to an empty string.

and you can see the passing of variable on the ExecStart line of duplicati-server that was shown earlier.

Regarding /etc/default, my non-Docker has a locale and useradd too – and 37 others including duplicati.

Maybe you could just make a duplicati file, but checking their unit file to see if it’s used might be wise.

systemctl status duplicati should show where the unit file is.

Could it be that you expected to see it when Duplicati was starting up ?

@ts678 indicated that I would see it pop up when browsing to “Show Log” on the Job Definition.

and many other operations, and creating the bug report qualifies. But what did you change to get it?

I didn’t change anything. It’s still not showing up when I play around with the job log files.

It shows up here when I expand the job, go to the Reporting section, and use Show log.
Starting elsewhere, I also get it as soon as I hit the Restore button. I don’t know why it’s
inconsistent (and maybe some Docker/systemd theories just got blown up), but the time
you really want to see it is during a backup or delete, to see if it speeds up slow deletes.

I guess. Your inconsistent result worries me a little…

EDIT:

I’m less worried that it showed up when you went in with a shell. That’s not likely systemd
which was the question: does it pass the variable to Duplicati or does it not? Was unclear.

Bug report failed:

Jun 16, 2023 1:57 PM: The operation CreateLogDb has failed with error: Attempted to write a stream that is larger than 4GiB without setting the zip64 option